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The Digital System Reform Review committee (10th Meeting)

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Event Information

Date:
Thursday, April 23, 2026 15:00 - 16:47
Location:
Held online

Agenda

  • 1. Opening
  • 2. Agenda
    • 1. Review of the Analog Regulations
    • 2. Exchange of Views
  • 3) Closing

Material

Minutes

Assistant Director Saito: , can you hear me?
Then, it's on time, so we will start the 10th "the Digital System Reform Review committee".
I will be in charge of the operation at the secretariat today. I am Saito from Deputy Director, Group of Strategy and Organization, Digital Agency. Nice to meet you.
I would like to express my sincere appreciation to all members for taking the time out of your busy schedules to attend today's meeting.
I heard that Dr. Masujima will be coming later.
In addition, due to the next schedule, I heard that Dr. Masujima is scheduled to leave around 16 o'clock.
In that case, regarding the rest of the proceedings, I would like to ask Chairman Inadani to preside over the meeting.
Thank you very much, Chairman Inadani.

Chairman Inadani: Thank you, , Thank you very much.
Dear Committee members, thank you very much for taking time out of your busy schedules to join us today.
Today, as in the previous meeting, I would like the secretariat to explain the status of various efforts by the Government since the previous meeting, followed by questions and discussions with the members.
First, I would like to ask the Secretariat to explain.

Kawano Director: Office. Nice to meet you.
Please turn to page 1, and I would like to introduce the overview of the materials prepared today in the table of contents. Things are progressing steadily, and basically, there are matters that I should report to you about. On the other hand, our efforts are progressing a little in various ways, and there are also initiatives that are taking action. Therefore, I would like to explain these matters in a slightly different tone.
In particular, with regard to (1) review of analog regulations, (2) promotion of local review of analog regulations, we have been strengthening our efforts since last fiscal year, fiscal 2025. In particular, we have brushed up various support measures based on the results of the efforts throughout the last fiscal year. We also have the latest statistics on the situation of review of analog regulations in each local government as of the end of March, and I would like to explain our future direction based on this.
Next, 2. We will link the results of the system review to the implementation of technologies in the field, and since last year, we have been actively disseminating information in cooperation with each ministry and agency and technology-owning companies.
At the last meeting of the Study Group in December, we introduced various initiatives, but they are expanding a little and are spreading in various places, so I would like to explain them.
With regard to 3. , I would like to take a slightly different view. Although the Government of Japan is in charge of laws and regulations, not review of analog regulations, I would like to take a little time to explain the efforts we have made over the past few years to provide reliable primary data to the people of Japan as a so-called base registry.
Then, I will explain in order from 1. (1) starting with Deputy Director who is in charge.
First of all, Assistant Saito, please tell us about the status of the review of analog regulations by the national government.

Assistant Director Saito: Let me explain, I am Saito.
As you can see on the slide, the review of 8,038 laws and regulations sites, or 98% of the total, has been completed.
Each ministry and agency is currently reviewing the remaining 2% toward the deadline set in the Roadmap.
Please turn over one page, and out of the remaining 2%, one large chunk is related to the regulations on displaying documents. This is an online version of service by public notification's regulations, and as a result of this review, service by public notification, which used to implement it on the bulletin board, will now be required to implement it on the bulletin board or on a computer in the office in addition to the Internet.
This review will come into effect on May 21 of this year, and the review is scheduled to proceed to 99.7% as of the end of May of this year as a result of the across-the-board review of regulations across various ministries and agencies.
As I stated before, in addition to reviewing existing regulations, since the extraordinary session of the Diet in 2022, we have been conducting reviews of digital legislation to prevent analog regulations from being formulated in the new laws and regulations. Although the number of bills submitted to the extraordinary session of the Diet will be somewhat smaller, during the extraordinary session of the Diet in 2025, there was one case that fell under the analog regulations.
A weather forecaster would be permanently stationed here, but we are also not permanently stationed here, and we have taken measures to enable online forecasting, and we have cleared Phase2 of the analog regulation.
Next, I will explain about the review of local governments.

Kawano Director: region.

Assistant Manager Nakamura: My name is Nakamura. Nice to meet you.
It is "Efforts to Promote Review of Local Analog Regulations."
I would like to explain two major points. The first point is that on March 27, we revised and published the 3.1 version of the manual that we have formulated and published for local governments. I would like to explain this point.
Second, we conduct a questionnaire survey of local governments throughout Japan every year. The results of the survey are to be released today. We would like to give you an overview of the results.
In addition, I would like to explain and report on the slight change in the method of disclosure.
The slide that you see now is the one that was presented at the previous review meeting, so I will omit a detailed explanation. As shown in the upper part, we have been strengthening our support for local governments since fiscal 2024, with the aim of having more than 50% of local governments' initiatives "implemented" or "under implementation" by the end of fiscal 2026.
In the document, the parts written in red are the points that have been updated from the last time, so I will explain this from now on.
Next slide, please.
This is an overview of the 3.1 version of the manual, so I'm afraid there's a lot of text, but I'd like to give you a brief explanation.
There are points (1) and (2), and regarding point (1), the revision of the so-called manual body.
Regarding point (2), it is to organize and enhance the reference materials, which are attached to the manual.
The common keyword in the revision work is to make the review work more efficient and reduce the burden.
Point (1), the main part, has been reviewed as necessary to reduce the workload so that the review can be conducted efficiently through communication with the local governments.
Regarding point (2), there are ① to ⑦. Among them, ①, ②, ③, and ⑤ will be explained individually on the next slide or later, so I will briefly touch on other parts here.
First, as for ④, when a local government conducts a review, the general process is that the promotion department of the local government, which actually organizes the entire work, holds briefing sessions or distributes the procedure manual to the regulatory departments such as the agricultural administration department or the social welfare department, which actually has jurisdiction over the ordinance, etc., and then places and requests work. Several of the target organizations of the individual support last year provided us with the procedure manual, and based on this, we have created the standard operation procedure manual as a model.
Regarding (vi), it is a compilation of a total of 40 cases of review by preceding organizations. Among them, the ones such as the ordinance Amendment show what kind of revision was made using the so-called old and new comparison method, as well as the effects of the review, and how much cost, time, or personnel required for the work was reduced.
Regarding (vii), of the questions received from local governments at on-site briefing sessions for individual support and online briefing sessions for general support, those that are considered to be of reference to other organizations have been compiled and published in the form of FAQs.
Next, please.
This is what we explained at the last meeting, "Analog Regulation Inspection Tool for Local Governments, Alpha Version".
In many cases, the ordinance, etc. under the jurisdiction of each organization has from several hundred to one thousand and several hundred ordinance, etc. This tool, which uses function in Excel Macro to instantly identify clauses that may fall under analog regulations from among these, has been used by many organizations since it was released in September last year. However, we received several requests from organizations that used it, so we improved it in response to them this time in March.
Next, please.
This is also a material that was explained and introduced at the previous review meeting. In the previous meeting, we reported that our team was conducting research on whether generative AI could be utilized in the work process of reviewing the analog regulations. As a result of this research, we published examples of so-called prompts, including points to be noted when utilizing them.
Using the inspection tools I explained in the previous slide, we will identify them and consider the direction of the review, but in the past, it was necessary for the regulatory division to think from scratch and come up with an answer line by line. It is expected that the utilization of generative AI will greatly save labor.
However, since it was printed out in generative AI, errors such as so-called hallucination may occur. It is necessary for you to understand that the printed out results are just a draft and a rough draft. However, I believe that it will be very different from a zero based idea in terms of making the work more efficient.
We would like to reduce the workload as much as possible when local governments voluntarily and independently review the work, so we have published the inspection tool I mentioned earlier or this generative AI prompt example, and we would like local governments to make use of it.
Here is the next slide.
Among the target organizations of the individual support projects we implemented last year, this is a material that systematically organizes the ideas of the efforts of 19 organizations and points that can be used as a reference for other organizations.
In addition to common items such as the population size of the organization, the promotion system, the work period required for each step, and the division of roles between the promotion division and the regulatory division, the document also includes unique initiatives that will be of reference.
Next, please.
For your reference, this is a map of Japan showing the target organizations for individual support projects for this fiscal year and fiscal 2026.
This year's target groups are shown in black.
One thing I would like to tell you is that of the 18 organizations, Marumori-machi in Miyagi, Nakagawa Village in Nagano, Oyama, Shimotsuke City, and Nogi-machi in Tochigi, and Sumida City and Taito City in Tokyo Prefecture were able to apply for this fiscal year's individual support because they participated in the local briefing session of the individual support organizations last fiscal year as neighboring organizations, and I think it can be said that this is a good example of horizontal development.
This is also the material I presented at the previous meeting, but it was implemented as a budgeted project last year.
In the previous survey, the blue squares were used to clarify the provisions of the analog regulations.
After this, regarding the areas circled in red, which were blank at the time, we stated that we would have local governments consider the direction of the review and other matters. As we were able to compile the results of the consideration by each organization without incident, we announced them.
In this regard, 21 organizations were subject to the Convention. It is a list of the ordinance and other areas under the jurisdiction of 21 organizations. In fact, it is a large database of about 12000 lines.
In our communication with local governments, we often hear requests to know the examples of preceding organizations. By looking at these materials, we can find similar ordinance for many organizations. Also, even in the same ordinance, the direction of review and the way of thinking differ depending on the organization, and some patterns may differ. Therefore, we believe that these materials will be very helpful in terms of what kind of decision should be made in light of the actual situation of each organization and what kind of review the preceding organization decided to conduct.
The above is the report on the revised content of the manual. The following is the second report item, the results of the survey on the status of initiatives.
This is the result of a questionnaire survey of organizations nationwide on the status of efforts as of the end of March 2026, whether they were "implemented," "being implemented," "planned to be implemented," or "undecided."
If you look at the pie chart on the left, the total of "implemented" and "ongoing" local governments is about 34%, which is about 23% in the previous survey conducted at the same time last year, so you can see that local efforts are steadily progressing.
On the other hand, as you can see from the bar graph on the right, the decline in the number of gray "undecided" groups has slowed down. This is an issue that remains to be addressed.
Next slide, please.
This is the current national data shown in a pie chart by group classification.
For prefectures, ordinance-designated cities and large organizations, the ratio of "implemented" and "under implementation" is high, but for general cities and towns and villages, there are still many places "undecided".
Regarding the progress of regional initiatives that I have explained thus far, some organizations were announced last fiscal year.
Specifically, the names of "implemented" and "ongoing" organizations were announced, but now, we have added the names of "planned" organizations in addition to "implemented" and "ongoing," in the hope that the visualization of the status of efforts will encourage mutual collaboration among organizations and raise the momentum for voluntary efforts by making people aware that efforts are also being made by nearby organizations.
As I introduced today, we have created an environment in which local governments can make voluntary and independent efforts, and we will take various opportunities to actively support them, including providing information on various tools.
That's all from me.

Kawano Director: Next, I would like to report on 1 "(3) Abolition of technology-based Council for Promotion of Regulatory Reform".
This was a committee under this committee, but as of March of this year, the end of the last fiscal year, it has fulfilled its role and has been abolished.
As you can see on page 18, when making a review of analog regulations, the ministries and agencies in charge of the analog regulations could not make a decision to review the regulations unless they had sufficient information on whether there were technologies that could replace the regulations and what specific technologies existed. Therefore, we started this initiative to show what technologies actually exist.
This is a summary of the series of developments. On the upper left, from around 2021 and 2022, this committee was established under the Ad Hoc Administrative Investigation Committee, which was the predecessor of this study group.
Then, in 2023, as shown in (ii) in the middle, we obtained a large amount of supplementary budget for technology demonstration, compiled a large number of reports on whether each technology can be used in practice, and published them, thereby urging each ministry to review the regulations in order to approach the 99.8% that I explained at the beginning.
This series of information has been compiled, and the portal site and other services are now in the operational phase. In that sense, the committee that has been promoting the project was concluded at the end of March.
On page 19, there is a paper on which the committee actually organized their heads.
As stated in the second of 1), based on the recognition that technology-based regulatory reform has largely achieved its initial objectives, we will continue to provide information toward a virtuous cycle of regulatory review and technological progress, as I will explain later. However, this committee meeting itself has concluded.
On the next page, we explain a little about the transition of the committee.
The rightmost section shows the current system. Under the review meeting, there was a committee under the chairmanship of Professor Ezaki of the University of Tokyo, but this was abolished in March, according to the report.
This is the first point, and the second point is to actively disseminate information toward a virtuous cycle of system review and technology implementation, which Assistant Director Saito will explain again.
Thank you.

Assistant Director Saito: 2.
If you turn over one page, it is page 22.
As I explained in 1, the review of the national regulations has almost been completed, and with regard to the local review, support is being provided so that local governments can conduct their own review. Now, as one of the areas that Digital Agency is focusing on, since the regulations have been reviewed, we would like to bring it to a state where the technology can be used in the field.
This slide, as I showed at the previous meeting and the one before that, the bottom right part, the green part, the part where the technology is actually introduced is not the department that promotes the review of local governments, but for example, the department that is in charge of areas such as sewerage and nursing care, and the businesses that have been conducting various inspections under regulations there, and as I will touch on later, the businesses that have drone and AI technologies and can enter these areas, I think the most important point for the spread of such technology is that information reaches them, so we are focusing on that and sending information.
After this, I will give various individual explanations on what media and how information was disseminated through various channels.

Kawano Director: Excuse me.
What we have just explained was a little insufficient, but what we think is that even if the "Digital Agency" on the upper left does the dissemination of information independently, it is difficult for the information to reach the lower right. The regulated industries, which are the operational divisions on the lower right, basically do business while constantly looking at the information from the "regulatory authorities" on the upper right above them, so we strongly believe that the regulatory authorities themselves should thoroughly disseminate information.

Assistant Director Saito: .
Please turn a page. As Kawano has just mentioned, in May last year, we requested the Deputy Directors-General of each ministry and agency to disseminate information to the field in their respective ministries and agencies, and based on this request, we have been disseminating information in cooperation with various ministries and agencies.
As I explained with a similar slide at the previous review meeting, cooperation with the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries, the Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare, and the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism has been progressing since then.
Broadly speaking, in addition to disseminating information through public relations media such as Digital Agency and owned media, and through briefings and other events conducted by ministries and agencies, we are also working to publish joint articles in newspapers and other media specialized in the industry.
If I may explain about each individual case, this is a pamphlet titled "Outline of Measures to Stabilize Business Income, etc." by the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries. In the pamphlet, which is distributed to farmers every year, explaining subsidy applications and various procedures, we write an article about cases in which satellites can be used to confirm the planting of subsidies in a way that links the efforts of Digital Agency and the Ministry of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries, and send it to people who are actually engaged in agriculture.
In relation to this, the confirmation of the planting of agricultural land is not at the stage where the technology has been introduced, but has reached the point of considerable spread.
On the left side, it won the Minister of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries Award of the Grand Prize for the Development and Use of Space. If you look at the right side, this is not verification test, and even if limited to the number of paid contracts, there are more than 60 councils and 20 municipalities. According to the person in charge, the number of contracts has increased considerably nationwide, and start-ups and other companies that have newly entered the market are entering the business.
If you turn one page, it will be the 26th page.
In relation to this, it has been pointed out that information should be provided not only to those that have been regulated but also to those that can enter as business opportunities due to the revision of regulations. We have been providing information to industry organizations such as the Japan Business Federation (Keidanren) and the Japan Association of Corporate Executives (Keizai Doyukai), but in addition to that, there may be cases where startups have not yet noticed that the technology they have is expanding into new areas that can be utilized due to the revision of regulations, or where they have not yet entered the market, so we are promoting efforts to provide information to startups.
I also participated in the "Startup Support Community Roundtable" on the bottom left, and I think Professor Ochiai and Professor Masujima were also members of the community, and I gave a speech at this community for startups. On the right, Mr. Kawano is attending the startup symposium. In the process of giving a speech at the startup symposium, we have been collaborating with not only startups but also megabanks that provide financial and information support and companies that mainly support startups to exchange information. We are not only delivering information to the ministries and agencies in charge of regulations, but also working to create a sender within the private sector.
On the 27th slide, we have been providing various information, but there are also detailed explanations of the technology, the cost of introduction, and tips on operation, so we have created content that explains the technology in considerable detail, focusing on a few industries, and published it at the end of last fiscal year.
As there are companies of various sizes across the country, and as you are engaged in work that is particularly urgent across the country, we have selected two fields, namely architecture and construction, and sewerage due to the Yashio City incident, and created content for commentary and information dissemination.
There are QR codes on pages 28 and 29. In fact, they are quite voluminous materials, but I hope you will take a look at the contents when you have a chance.
On page 30, we disseminate information in cooperation with each ministry and agency.
Digital Agency is also putting considerable effort into PR, and we use staff with media backgrounds for PR, so we regularly release video content and text content.
There is a link for this as well, so you can look at it when you have time, but if you look at the right-hand side for a moment, the review of local governments, which I talked about earlier, this one explains the thoughts of the subsection chief in charge and where they came up with ideas, with a lot of stories. It is distributed in the form of an article that even a life-size small local government can review it without much effort using Digital Agency tools.
From this point on, newspaper articles and other articles are included only for committee members, but information is disseminated to the field and articles are published in various industries.
What you are looking at now is what was published in the construction-related newspaper with which we cooperated when the commentary content I introduced earlier was published.
In addition, for sewage systems, multiple newspapers have collaborated with MLIT to publish large feature articles and other articles that feature Digital Agency, MLIT, companies that actually possess the technology, and local governments that are working on it.
Also, RegTech Community and RegTech Meet have been held continuously since last year.
Last year, toward the end of the fiscal year, the forum was open to the public about once a month, and featured topics of great social interest, such as sewer pipe inspections, Yashio City accidents, and bear damage control technologies.
In particular, more than 400 people participated in the event related to the sinking of the Yashio, and more than 150 people participated in the event related to the bear damage. Local governments and businesses are very interested in the online event, where they can listen to live exchanges and listen to the thoughts of the people in charge.
For this matter, we are planning to continue holding online events this fiscal year.
I know it's a bit of a rush, but I'd like to explain how we can create a virtuous cycle of system review and implementation.

Kawano Director: This is the second explanation.
Finally, Special Advisor Iwadare will explain "3. Efforts to Promote Data Utilization in laws and regulations, etc."

Assistant Iwadare: I'm Iwadare from Digital Agency, . Nice to meet you.
In Digital Agency, we have promoted initiatives that combine laws and regulations and digital.
We are working on the following three main pillars: (1) improving the efficiency of bill drafting work, (2) developing a base registry to provide easy-to-understand laws and regulations information, and (3) promoting the use of laws and regulations information based on the base registry.
The main background is as described below.
This time, I would like to introduce the development of the Base Registry and the hackathon efforts based on these three pillars.
First, I will explain about the maintenance of the base registry.
Currently, Digital Agency maintains and operates e-LAWS and e-Gov laws and regulations Search systems for laws and regulations information.
e-LAWS is a system within the Government of Japan that provides the laws and regulations database developed here as a e-Gov laws and regulations search as a base registry for the people of Japan.
As you can see in the table below, the laws and regulations information we currently provide is up to Prefectural Ordinances, and we cannot provide public notices.
In this regard, we have been considering whether it would be possible to include a notice as well.
On this slide, I would like to repeat what I said before, but regarding the first announcement, unlike the Cabinet Office Ordinance, there is no unified database that provides the latest and accurate data.
However, it has been pointed out that under such circumstances, if the notice is not published, it may be difficult to grasp the overall picture of the rules, including laws and regulations.
In addition, the second major point is that efforts to digitize official gazette have progressed, a law on the issuance of official gazette has been established, and among the notifications, notifications with a legal nature have been stipulated in the law. In official gazette, it has also started to be posted separately for legal notifications and other notifications.
Based on these points, "Priority Plan for the Realization of a Digital Society" has also decided to aim to start providing a base registry for the notification by the end of fiscal 2026.
With regard to the "Current Initiatives," given these circumstances, we started data collection for legal notifications last fiscal year. A considerable amount of data was collected in Digital Agency, which was confirmed by each ministry and agency with the cooperation of all ministries and agencies. Once the preparations were completed, we started the trial launch on the government's internal system, e-LAWS, in February this year.
By the end of this fiscal year, or by the end of FY 2026, we aim to start providing information on legal notifications to the public through the e-Gov laws and regulations search function.
However, there are major issues ahead of the launch, so I would like to introduce them as well.
The first point is that unlike laws and regulations, the Notification is not necessarily composed of a wide variety of articles, sections, and items, but of a variety of matters.
In this regard, it is necessary to continue to consider the policy and future operation of the data, taking into account the current specifications of e-LAWS.
The second point is that the number of notifications published is expected to be equivalent to the number of laws and regulations currently installed, which is about 10,000, and the maintenance burden is heavy.
At present, laws and regulations is being provided promptly after its official announcement, but as we are developing various notifications, it is quite a challenge to update them immediately at the same pace as laws and regulations or with the same frequency.
Despite these issues, we will continue to work toward providing the data in the legal notice.
The above was the content related to the provision of the base registry of the notice.
Finally, I would like to explain the "Report on the' laws and regulations' x' Digital' Hackathon".
As I stated at the beginning, the "laws and regulations" x "Digital" Hackathon was held from December last year to March this year for the purpose of improving the efficiency of legislative affairs, providing easy-to-understand laws and regulations information to the people, and creating new businesses using such information.
A variety of people, including engineers, professionals, and local government officials, participated in the development of the work.
We examined the work you developed and held an award ceremony in March this year.
The award-winning works are listed below, and each of them was developed wonderfully.
Among them, the Lawsy Alerts won the top prize.
This one automatically obtains the information on the laws and regulations Amendments published every day, organizes and analyzes the background, key points, and impact on business of the amendments in AI, and generates an easy-to-understand report.
I believe that this is a wonderful system that can make the work of collecting and organizing the vast and scattered information on the laws and regulations Amendment and interpreting the content more efficient.
In this way, various works were developed at the hackathon, and we hope to connect these works and ideas to future initiatives.

Kawano Director: Secretariat.
Then, Chairman Inadani, please proceed with the meeting.

Chairman Inadani: Thank you, Thank you for your very detailed explanation.
I would now like to welcome any comments or questions you may have regarding the explanation we have just received.
What do you think?
Your hands are up from the Member Masujima.
Also, Mr. Ogawa and Mr. Uenoyama have raised their hands.
Then, please give us your opinions in this order.
Then, Mr. Masushima, please start.

Member Masujima: Thank you very much for your explanation.
Can you hear me? Are you all right?

Chairman Inadani: Thank you, Yes. I can hear you.

Member Masujima: Are you all right?
.
First of all, regarding the "Status of Progress on Reviewing the Analog Regulations," if you look at core cities, ordinary cities, towns and villages, and page 15, I think that the progress is a little delayed because towns and villages are "undecided."
Something like a sense of structure can be intuitively understood very well, but I think that it will be an important point from now on to prevent the introduction of something undecided in towns and villages from becoming fixed.
In relation to that, I think what is important is the institutional marketing that Issho Kon is working hard on, Mr. Digital Agency's activities.
While using various media, rather than just pushing, we will increase our exposure as much as possible through various media or other municipalities.
I think that's probably the strategy you are pursuing, but as the exposure increases, the possibility of attracting the attention of the people in the towns and villages increases, and as we hear about this a lot recently, whether we want to do it or not, we will be in a mode where we have to do it, and we will start doing it.
In short, as we are a large company and our neighbors are also innovating, it is exactly the same as what we have to innovate. Regardless of whether it is good or not, I think it will probably become that mode.
In that sense, in order to advance the progress of small local governments, I felt that if they continue to increase exposure and touch points as much as possible, they will surely exceed the tipping point. That is my first point.
The second point is that I am very grateful that you extended your hand to the Notification, especially as a legal expert.
This is because there are a large number of notifications, and the notifications are at the end, so they are detailed, but I think one point is that there is flexibility for that.
If we try to keep the flexibility or details at the same level as e-LAWS, which has been the e-Gov of the government offices to ensure that they are always up-to-date, I think we will end up with an over-qualified system. If we cannot announce the details as long as e-LAWS is kept up-to-date, I think we will end up talking about who it is good for.
We are currently doing this with the real estate registry, but we are moving in the direction of communicating that the map is not necessarily perfect, just like the cadastral map we have been talking about. I think that the public notice is similar to this, and the public notice level is not perfect, and the latest information is not listed. If you take this approach, the welfare of society as a whole will be enhanced.
To be honest, it seems that the only people who see the Notification are legal experts and such people, so it is okay to look at it at that level, but it is at a level where you can dig deeper from there, so I would like it to be treated in that way, which is the second point.
The third and final topic is digital hackathons.
I think this is very difficult, but I feel that it has been very useful in conveying the interests of various people to a wide range of people, probably because it has been done for a long time.
I believe that this approach, including the fact that it does not seem to be a hackathon approach by a government office, has a very positive impact on the whole. Broadly speaking, I believe that it has actually led to an increase in trust in the administration and the government.
So, I think that the activities that you are doing are steady activities, but I believe that the very fact that it is known that the government is doing this will lead to trust in the government, that is, social stability. I would be happy if everyone who is doing it continues with confidence and pride that it is an activity that can lead to such a thing.
These are the three points.
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Chairman Inadani: Thank you, , Thank you very much.
I have been told that Mr. Member Masujima will be attending by 4 o'clock, so I would appreciate it if the secretariat can respond to the opinions that Mr. Member Masujima has provided.

Kawano Director: , thank you very much.
We received three comments.
First, I would like to thank you for your advice and comments on the topic of future public relations policies based on the progress of local governments.
This initiative itself began in the last fiscal year, fiscal 2025, and the latter half of fiscal 2024. At that time, in that sense, all local governments flatly asked everyone to do their best, and in the year and a half since then, I believe that there have been differences in progress depending on factors such as population size.
Therefore, when we think about how to disseminate information in the future, we have an awareness of the problem that we need to think a little more about getting messages to the towns and villages who tend to be late.
As Professor Masujima said, we have been increasing our exposure for the past year and a half or so, and that is exactly what we have been doing. Earlier, we had our articles published in the Sewage News and the Kenchiku Tsushin Shimbun, and of course, in the early days, we had them published in the Nikkei Shimbun and other newspapers. However, we have gradually expanded our exposure to local newspapers and specialized newspapers such as these, so that people who usually see these things can see them.
So, as you said, in the future, I would like to create a story in which those towns and villages that tend to lag behind would think that it is time for us to do it, and at that time, in fact, other towns and villages are already doing it. If you look at page 30 of the handout, in the "Review of analog regulations by local governments" on the right, in Mr. Chikujo-machi in Fukuoka prefecture on the upper right, there is a story that a female subsection chief shown in the middle here worked hard by herself, but she managed to do it. I think it would be difficult to take such a step without such a person, but it has actually been created, so we would like to make efforts to visualize and refer to this very thing.
As you said, the Japanese people are very good at the principle of parallelism, and that is exactly what we intend to do.

The second point is, thank you.
I think it is important to report positively that the issues written at the bottom of page 38 are indeed the base registry of the Notification, but at the same time, honestly share information with experts on this occasion that it is actually quite difficult on the ground.
As you said, the details are in various formats, and there are many ways to convert them into data. It is a matter of immediacy, and it is difficult to do it as in laws and regulations.
However, there is always value in information, so I would like to ask for a little bit of forgiveness for the immediacy and display, but I think it is meaningful to put it out as something valuable.
Thank you for also praising our third hackathon initiative.
In a sense, the essence of hackathons is that the further apart the left and right sides of the "X" are, the greater the synergistic effect. Actually, when I participated in last year's hackathon, at first, there was a group of about 100 AI engineers, and I thought I could have a conversation with them. To put it the other way around, when I was young, I was from a generation that had been forced to do really black laws and regulations work for a long time. The more I talked about it, the more excited the AI engineers were, and I realized that they were having such a hard time.
For them, technology can be put to use only if there is a task that makes use of technology, so when they see primitive people doing very primitive work, they are very amused and try to exercise their skills, so I think it is a very good effort.
In fact, the participants have begun to interact with each other. Of course, at the end, there is the Gold Award and the Silver Award. Three years later, a kind of community in this field has been established, which I think is a result of this hackathon.
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Chairman Inadani: Thank you, , Thank you very much for your candid and candid answers.
Now, I would like to hear the opinions of the other members.
In order, Mr. Ogawa, please.

Member Ogawa: .
Thank you very much for your kind and detailed explanation.
Review of analog regulations believes that it is very important to firmly promote the implementation as an actual regulatory reform, so I would like to thank Digital Agency for its constant activities.
In addition, regarding the promotion of the use of new technologies by local governments, as you reported earlier, we highly appreciate the further progress, including the use of AI.
In this context, I would like to make five comments.
First, in your earlier explanation, you reported on the identification of the provisions of the analog regulations for 21 organizations and the publication of the results of their deliberations.
The accumulation of information through such visualization is evaluated as an extremely important achievement. I believe that such a vast amount of information is truly a national asset and extremely valuable. I hope that it will lead to future development, including how to utilize such information in the future.
The second point is that you mentioned earlier that disclosure of the status of initiatives is effective.
I have been saying that disclosure is an important method for promoting voluntary efforts, and I highly appreciate that the environment is actually developed and operated in this way. I believe that the promotion phase of measures will be further advanced in the future. I also expect that the KPIs to be disclosed will be advanced in each phase, such as "usage status" and "cost-effectiveness" from the current ones.
The third point is that there was an explanation page about the registry based on notifications related to laws and regulations earlier, but I am very interested in it. I highly appreciate the provision to e-LAWS. In the past, in some countries, machine-readable regulations were already developed, and companies incorporated them, and technology to analyze how changes in each regulation affect internal regulations and internal controls of each process using AI was one of the important topics in regulatory technology. At that time, the design of regulations was complicated and not easy, so after listening to the explanation earlier, I think we have finally come to this point, and I have high expectations for the future. Since measures are already being promoted at the XML level, I expect that it will develop into the utilization of the latest technologies such as AI, etc., such as automatic linkage with external APIs, etc., acquisition of differences in regulatory reform, impact analysis, etc.
The fourth point is about the hackathon that you mentioned earlier. In the past, in the United Kingdom, an initiative called "TechSprint" in which the government was involved attracted attention.
Hackathons have already been held in various forms, but what makes the UK's "TechSprint" extremely significant is that the national government is clearly involved and moves in parallel while understanding the process. In cases where reliable technology is very strongly required under certain circumstances, hackathons, in which the national government prepares dummy data and the national and private sectors work together to confirm the accuracy, are of great significance. I hope that these initiatives will be further expanded.
Finally, regarding the startup community, I feel that it is very meaningful to hear that mega-banks and startup supporters participated in it. I think that the next phase will be to cultivate startups and promote the development of new technologies. In the future, I think it will be important to create an ecosystem in which a series of important players such as fund founders, venture capitalists, accelerators and incubators are involved, and public, private and many players participate. I hope that these efforts will start to move forward under the strong promotion of Digital Agency.
I'll give it back to you.

Chairman Inadani: Thank you, Thank you for your very useful and detailed comments.
It was quite substantial in terms of content, so I would like to ask for your cooperation if you receive a response from the secretariat regarding Mr. Ogawa's comments.

Kawano Director: We received five comments.
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First, it is page 13.
Using the project funded by the FY 2024 supplementary budget, we asked 21 organizations to first identify the provisions of the analog regulations in the ordinance that they have, as shown on the left.
Actually, there was a budget for this, but at the time of the fiscal 2024 supplementary budget, the inspection tool I mentioned earlier had not yet been developed, so we spent national funds to entrust operators with the regular inspection system with searching and creating the table on the left.
As a result, the red part on the right, this is each of the 21 local governments. In a sense, we covered the cost of the work on the left that they had to do by themselves, so on the right, we asked them to think by themselves and fill it properly.
As long as national expenditure is allocated for this achievement, it will not be data only for your local government, so we have made a budget on the condition that all achievements are made public.
Therefore, as Commissioner Ogawa said, the data obtained here is ours, so it is all made public.
The next action is a question that is so beautiful that it seems to be a preparation. This is truly a great reference data. On page 10, using generative AI, in the future, other local governments will use the same inspection tool to identify their own information, and how to review each provision has been done by humans so far. If you make generative AI think about it, it will give you a reasonable answer.
However, generative AI naturally needs data to give good answers, and the results of the 21 organizations I introduced earlier this time will be very helpful teaching data for generative AI to play an active role. Every year, technology is upgraded more and more, and efforts are becoming more and more efficient, and we are watching from the side and with our own eyes, and to be very honest, the staff are working with motivation in a way that they think what they are doing is completely different from last year.
To put it the other way around, what we are going to do with the remaining towns and villages is a little bit of a challenge, but to put it the other way around, as time goes by, thanks to technology, the actual amount of work is getting easier and easier, and with all the information available, we are not in a situation where we have to do the same kind of work from scratch. This is the strength of AI.
Second, you pointed out the disclosure of the status of initiatives.
It is not just a question of whether we are doing it or not, but as for how it is actually used or its cost-effectiveness, I do not have any specific ideas on this at the moment, but I believe that the time will come when all of these are either "being implemented" or "already implemented," and then we will have to think a little bit about what will happen next.
The third point is that we have received recognition for issuing notifications. Thank you very much.
I didn't know that, but it's true that when regulations change, how they will affect corporate governance and compliance, and not just look at it with in-house lawyers, but use these things to make AI think about corporate governance. I see. These are the ideas I want you to propose at the hackathon.
We, the government, are only in charge of laws and regulations and impose regulations, so we, the regulatory authorities, do not know much about the needs of those who are subject to regulations. So, looking at Professor Ogawa's remarks today, the next engineer who sees the minutes will make a proposal at the next hackathon, and develop products and services, which may lead to their business. I think it would be really good if such a move emerges.
It was not that we simply issued the notification, but rather that we thought that if it significantly reduced the legal burden and costs of all Japanese companies, it would strengthen the competitiveness of Japanese industry as a whole, and I was told that it was a dream story.
The fourth point is that the government is firmly involved in the hackathon, which I think is meaningful.
You mentioned the provision of dummy data, but in fact, the digital hackathon in laws and regulations itself is exactly the information of the e-Gov laws and regulations search that we are preparing, and of course, other external data can be imported, but far from dummy data, it is developed in a way that real data can be utilized.
I appreciate the fact that there is a certain level of trust with the involvement of the government.
Finally, about the fifth startup.
You said you went there, but to be honest, I also went to the event on the right.
What page was it?

Assistant Director Saito: Page 26.

Kawano Director: Page 26?
I came to this event with the intention of appealing to the startups that would be gathered there, and I gave a lecture, or rather, a speech. After that, when we exchanged business cards, the mega-bank I mentioned earlier came and said that they wanted to understand what the Digi Agency is doing in terms of our support for startups, so they asked me to tell them about it. Ah, I thought it would be better to have these people on my side, and I was amazed at that.
After that, the mega-banks came to the office individually, absorbed all the content we were explaining, and asked us to explain it to various people. Conversely, if there is anything we do not understand, we ask at any time, so if the regulatory system changes in the entire ecosystem of start-up support or if information such as laws and regulations Date is made public, various chemical reactions will occur.
I think I have answered the five points above.
Thank you very much.

Member Ogawa: Thank you very much.

Chairman Inadani: Thank you, Thank you very much.
Well, Mr. Uenoyama, please start.

Uenoyama Constituency: Uenoyama
I'm sorry I haven't been able to come out much lately.
However, at the same time, I am very pleased to see that various things are moving forward at a tremendous pace, as I read the materials for the outcome report and other materials. In the process of doing this, I believe a lot of various things have happened, and I would like to begin by expressing my sincere appreciation for your efforts.
I have three announcements.
The two points are that the field of AI is rapidly evolving, so there are two points that I think are suggestions from the industry that are currently taking place, and the last three points are detailed discussions that may be interesting to discuss in the future.
As for your first question, on the premise that there is a digital literacy gap as you are currently showing, I would like to ask two questions about how to proceed well.
The first point is that there are four major levels of work efficiency using AI. I feel that this is how you are actually working. If I may say a little bit again, level 1 is to write a good prompt when using AI. I think there are various ways to do this, such as study groups. That is level 1.
If Level 2 finds a prompt template, it will be shared and used by everyone.
This is also an area that has already been done, and we will expand the prompt template horizontally.
Level 3, sometimes called RAG, is about adding contextual information to AI. This was mentioned earlier and you said it will be done in the future. On page 13, there is a list of the results of the study. By adding the results of 21 organizations to the context, I think there will be a very powerful use. The third level is 3.
I think that Level 4 is quite important. In the utilization of AI, AI is used as it is, or rather, it is just a component, so it is made into software and used up. I think that Level 4 is very profound.
I thought that the analog regulatory inspection tool on page 9 was exactly that, and I was listening because I thought it was very wonderful. I think that it would be good to promote this development by adding various weapons to this and other angles that will probably come out in the future, making full use of the power of digital.
My first point is that I shared it as a reference because the way of moving will change considerably in these four stages.
The second point is that the best practices of the system for how to promote such things are coming out in the industry, so I will share it for your reference, while thinking that the actual situation is close to that.
When industry wants to use AI in various ways, and under what kind of system it will advance company-wide, an approach that divides it into three major layers has become a Ukami.
First of all, we divide all employees into three groups, the AI First Team, the AI Second Team, and the AI Third Team. The AI First Team corresponds to Digital Agency in this case. A dedicated team to drive AI utilization and the recent digital and analog regulations will be placed in the center. The second team will not be a division in the private sector. In the private sector, the first team will be the head office and the second team will be a division.
So, in this case, I think Digital Agency will be the first and local governments will be the second. The second team is quite important, and there are more cases in which people who are responsible for promoting AI in each division, even if it is a side job, are appointed. That is the second.
For the third team, it's okay to touch the AI, but not everyone will do it. Those who use what the first and second teams have created will be the third team.
Dividing these three, we are talking about designing the vertical flow and horizontal flow of the first, second and third well.
The vertical flow is exactly that the first team has the most knowledge, has success stories, and makes tools for the level 4. On the other hand, it flows to the second team, and the second team spreads it to the third team when it reaches the belly. This is a vertical flow.
There is a way to put a chatbot that can make inquiries about what you don't know among various second and third party people, and you can devise various vertical flows.
Next, in terms of horizontal flow, especially the second person, in the case of this time, in the private sector, the people promoting AI in each division, the horizontal communication is well designed.
Monthly study meetings or best-practice conferences would be good for that, but I think there was a discussion about creating an atmosphere earlier, and it may be close to that. There will be differences in tone with 1,700 examples, so I think it is a horizontal flow. This is shared for reference only.
As AI evolves rapidly, it is extremely important not to complete it, but to continue to operate it. In that sense, this is indeed a difficult task. However, while continuing to do it, various successful examples are emerging, and industries are expanding their kinetic energies by enjoying them. Moreover, Mr. Digital Agency, including hackathons, is doing it more and more, which I find very encouraging.
Finally, what you said was redundant. We have heard a lot from you this time. Of course, there are priorities to further accelerate our efforts this time while utilizing Level 4 software, but I think there is still a possibility that we can do more in various ways. I would like to discuss this at some point in time. To make one quick statement, I think that communicating the results is very important and is being focused. I feel that AI can be used to communicate the results.
AI can be understood in various ways, but in the future, various efforts will be made when we intuitively understand it. Speaking a little metaphorically, what is generative AI? There are old documents and various other documents. We call this a tablet, and it may not be intuitive, but from the AI's point of view, there are many things that are engraved on the tablet, and when they are learned by the AI, it is close to the action of melting the tablet.
It has become possible to melt a tablet with AI, for example, if you say you melt it and make it into a video, it will suddenly become a video, or if you say you make it into a chatbot, it will become a chatbot, something that has never been done before. It would be better if there is a concrete example, so I would like to tell you that I thought AI could be used to transmit information because as a website, it produces various results, and I don't know if I can call it a tablet, but if you train a AI on something that is fixed with characters, for example, it can be converted into a very beautiful one minute result announcement video.
Looking at the communication between the government and the private sector, I think AI can be used to deliver very important results well. Various initiatives can be easily converted into one minute video, so for example, if you pop it out of your Digital Agency account, current digital users can talk to you for about one minute rather than deeply reading the text. Traffic in video is currently growing explosively in Digital Agency, so when we do this, the value and results of the initiatives will be conveyed several times more in the digital space than now. I think we can probably make samples quickly, so if you are interested, I would like to talk to you somewhere again.
In any case, I believe that we have achieved significant results and are moving forward in various areas, including those that are just a few days away. I will continue to do what I can, so I ask for your continued support.
That's all.

Chairman Inadani: Thank you, , Members, thank you very much for your many interesting ideas.
As time is running out, I would like to ask for a response from the Secretariat after hearing all the views of the members first.
Well, Mr. Ochiai, please start.
Ochiai members, you may not be speaking. You may not be making a sound.
Please let me take the form of having the Wakao members comment first, and then return it to the Ochiai members. I'm sorry.
Member Wakao, please go ahead.

Constituent Wakao: Thank you.
Page 5 is Digital Legal Review.
I think it is written in Basic Act on the Formation of a Digital Society that necessary measures must be taken so that effective use of the systems will not be hindered. Negative checks are effective in some areas, but in order to make the systems work properly at the operational level, it is essentially necessary to have a strong will to aim for simplification of the systems themselves. There is a question of whether it should be done within this framework, but I feel that such a thing will become necessary in the future.
The local review of analog regulations on page 7.
I think it is wonderful that various efforts are being made here.
I recognize that there are many tools available, and I think that good initiatives have been taken to considerably reduce the burden on each local government.
However, I think there are some local governments where the preceding organizations have started and finished.
What remains now is that even if information is provided in various forms, for example, there is a pattern in which it does not reach them well, or it does not resonate with them, or they feel too burdened to do it, so the issue of will is very important. I think it is very important to create this will.
As you mentioned, I think it is important to accumulate and disseminate information on examples of how small municipalities have become so much easier, and I think it is also important to make the effects visible.
I think there will be discussions about selecting a field using each generative AI, but I think it will be quite different if we add a further level of analysis to the list of patterns that have been created across organizations, such as that it would be better to start with this field, or that it would be better to start with this field, among the various support we have provided so far.
On page 14, it says "in progress," and I think there are some local governments that have been here for several years. Those that are not completed or "implemented."
I think there are various reasons, but I really want to ask a question that can be analyzed in this introduction about what kind of state it is in the first place.
The aim is not to bring all of them to "implemented." Some may say that it is an unfinished effort, but in order to show the expansion of the entire review of analog regulations, I think it is important to look for the reasons of the local governments that are staying.
I think the publication of information on efforts on page 16 is also a good effort.
Recently, when I often talk with people in local governments and related parties, Mr. Digital Agency's dashboard is often viewed by members of local assemblies.
Diet members are very interested in what is going on in their local governments, including stories that they don't seem to be providing such information.
In that sense, I think it is a necessary initiative to actively disseminate information to prefectural assemblies, city assemblies, and town and village assemblies. I think it is necessary in the sense of creating momentum in various ways.
It is a notification on page 37.
I think this is a very good effort, and I think the biggest bottleneck in the use of generative AI is how much reliable information can be distributed.
I think this kind of notification is very important as the foundation of data distribution here.
I believe you mentioned that it is quite difficult because of the variety of forms. There is a question as to how far we can go with the Notification. There is a question as to how far we can go in sorting out the standard system and, in some cases, the form. However, since the current form is something like a free performance, we need to think a little bit about whether we can achieve at least the prescribed performance level. I recognize that this is a difficult issue.
I believe there will be a considerable impact, including on notifications to local governments. I believe notifications are for the general public, but I believe there are also tools for local governments, such as announcements.
That's all from me.

Chairman Inadani: Thank you, , members, thank you for your various points.
Well, Mr. Ochiai, please start.
What do you think?

Member Ochiai: Nice to meet you, Excuse me.
Can you hear me now?

Chairman Inadani: Thank you, Yes. That's fine.
Thank you.

Member Ochiai: Nice to meet you, .
First of all, I believe that the report this time was very substantial. In addition, since we have already received a considerable number of comments on detailed points from each member, I would like to briefly look back on the outcomes of the Study Group and once again state whether it is within the scope of the Study Group or not, but what should be done in the future.
First of all, I think that this study group itself is in a situation where it is discussing the destination of review of analog regulations. We have come to the next phase of technology-based Council for Promotion of Regulatory Reform abolition and laws and regulations database, and the base registry of the Notification is coming into view. So, I think that a considerable set of preparations has been made. With this, I think that the basic idea of digitalization itself has been organized to some extent and its implementation has also been advanced.
On the other hand, technology maps, technology catalogs, the RegTech community, and as discussed a little now, information dissemination in the industry, utilization of laws and regulations data, and digital administrative and fiscal measures have been studied, but these will also be important in the future. I think that this series of frames has been appropriately designed as a foundation for a virtuous cycle of system review and technology implementation.
On the other hand, in some documents, there is a possibility that information is not provided carefully and continuously about the content of regulatory reviews and available technical information. Therefore, although there are parts where we can further ensure effectiveness at the implementation stage, and we have already achieved considerable results, I think there is an aspect that it will be even more useful.
While efforts such as providing information to the field, matching regulated businesses with technology holders, and horizontal development of efforts with local governments have been put in place, I believe it will become important again to strengthen continuous follow-up and accompanying mechanisms that will lead to implementation.
On the other hand, there may be some issues that are beyond the scope of this study group, but in the future, the development of AI agents and physical AI will be the core issue for Japanese growth strategies and Minister in charge of Administrative Reform Okada, not only in the context of digitalization and regulatory reform. From the perspective of improving productivity amid a declining population and securing industrial competitiveness, the social implementation of such AI will be the most important agenda. I think the digital system reforms that this study group has dealt with are essential elements that support the foundation.
Having said that, I would like to make about five points.
First, I think we need to consider new risk responses in the future.
As independent decisions and actions of AI agents enter society, there will be cases where regulatory responses in individual processes will not be able to keep up. However, I think it is necessary to develop systems with a sense of speed that will lead to challenges that take advantage of Japan's strengths.
The second point is what we have been doing so far, but data collection will become even more important. The foundation for data utilization that will support the learning and operation of AI is an extension of the base registry of the laws and regulations database that has been discussed at this study group. I believe it is very important to position the development of a data utilization foundation as a prerequisite for the implementation of AI.
The third point is that integrated use of regulations, standards, and certification will be necessary.
For AI and physical AI, not only regulations alone, but also the design of systems that combine them with such technical standards will be the keys to international competitiveness, so I think it is important to consider more integrated policies to realize growth strategies.
I believe that the basic policies for categorization and common measures have been carried out to a great extent in this study group, including the working group of the former Digital Ad Hoc Committee.
Regulatory reform projects related to the AI are also likely to become huge. I think it was very important to organize categories and develop common measures before dealing with individual projects. It is also a part that forms the basis of the results of this review meeting, and I think it is necessary to do it again in the future.
In terms of the relationship between AI agents and independent decisions and actions of physical AI, there is a possibility that there will be issues that cannot be dealt with in the uniform framework of responsibility attribution, so I think it is necessary to consider these points.
While there are many themes that require practical arrangements across ministries and agencies, I think the sub-working of the three ministries on autonomous driving was also conducted in Digital Agency, and I thought it would be important to resume such work and develop it by looking back on the phases in which cross-sectional considerations were effective.
I believe that in order to make our efforts in the AI era even more effective in the future, it will be crucial to develop mechanisms that can handle effective assurance in a cross-cutting manner, such as accountability systems, data collection, regulations, standards, and certification.
At that time, as an organization, I believe it will be important to have not only the existing route of the regulatory reform Promotion Council, but also the system currently being considered as a separate function responsible for common measures by category. I believe it would be better to have a function that divides each into large and a little more categorized items.
Amidst this, I believe that it will become even more important in the future to have a core of human resources who have practical experience from the regulatory reform and digital ad hoc consultations to the current initiatives, and who can organize the relationship between technology and regulations. I believe that the members of the secretariat who are currently participating and those who have been involved in the past are also very important. I also believe that there are people at the Digital TV Agency who have experience in regulatory reform.
As such human resources are limited, I believe it is necessary to make preparations in advance to implement a mechanism that works across ministries and agencies. I also believe it is important to ensure the effectiveness of the mechanism built in review of analog regulations to be further inherited and developed in the AI era.
I'm sorry. There may have been a few things that went beyond the content of this review meeting, but that's all I noticed.
Thank you very much.

Chairman Inadani: Thank you, , thank you very much for your very future-oriented comments.
I am sorry. Due to my mishandling of the matter, I have decided to extend it, but I would appreciate it if there is a response from the secretariat regarding the opinion I have just received.

Kawano Director: .
First, I believe we received three comments from Mr. Uenoyama.
Thank you very much for explaining what we are doing in a very easy-to-understand manner from the perspective of the top technical experts of AI.
In that sense, we have taken the first three of the four steps in consideration, and the fourth is the last one.
Furthermore, you mentioned that AI will be converted to software. We have provided inspection tools and model prompts as a summary as of March this year. However, we are actually discussing what further can be done internally with experts from Digital Agency. I would be very grateful if Mr. Uenoyama could provide us with his various wisdom. Thank you very much.
Also, I think you talked about the practice of the system, especially the categorization of employees in a company. It was very informative and helpful to understand the relationship between the Agency for Digital and local governments objectively. Thank you very much.
The third point is that in terms of how to use AI, rather than reviewing regulations per se, I believe that AI can be used as a public relations tool to create an atmosphere. I think this is quite eye-opening and I agree with that.
To be honest, I told you that we are cooperating with various ministries and agencies to broadcast video.
Actually, each ministry is not very good at creating such video content, so our PR team will create easy-to-understand video content, etc., but if it is made rather long, we may receive instructions from the three political executives, such as if video can be made into one minute. In such a case, as Mr. Uenoyama just said, using AI as a function to make more easy-to-understand content would be something we can do. We would also be grateful for any technical guidance.
Mr. Wakio: First of all, in relation to the legal review, to be honest, we are currently only conducting a negative check.
To be honest, regarding the bills that each ministry is considering in the midst of coordinating various interests and making various policy requests, it is my intuitive sense as a government official that Digital Agency goes beyond negative checks and makes requests regarding the ideal form of the systems, but I would like to take a note.
In addition, I believe that the question of how to create the "will" of local communities is exactly as you stated.
As was mentioned a little earlier, in order to visualize the effects that have been achieved, in particular, how to create content that will move local governments where "Will" is difficult to come out, perhaps with the help of Mr. Uenoyama, if we do it this way, we will create narratives that can be done very easily and well, I think.
In addition, you stated that it is necessary to analyze how many "implementing" organizations are implementing it in the future.
Certainly, when all of them are "implemented" or "completed," I think this will be related to Dr. Ogawa's question earlier, but in a sense, I would like to consider how to evaluate the contents of "implemented" or "completed."
Also, regarding the announcement on page 16, I believe it is also possible to publish it on the dashboard. As has been stated, Digital Agency has shared the "Japan Dashboard" with Mr. Cabinet Office and others. We have published data that can be viewed at a glance, such as population, age structure, and fertility rate for each local government unit, and quite a few high school students and young students have referred to it as easy-to-understand data, so we would like to consider publishing something new. Although it is quite exciting, I would like to consider publishing such information to places like the National Parliamentary Association as one idea.
Also, in relation to the Notification on page 37, you mentioned that the Notification should not be limited to free performances, but making rules for the formulation of the Notification, such as mandatory performances, would be a drastic reform of Kasumigaseki, so I was surprised when I heard this, but I would like to make a take note.
In addition to the notice, I believe there was also a discussion on whether it would be possible to publish notifications. To be honest, notifications within the Cabinet Office and each ministry and agency are internal documents, so it may be quite difficult, but I had the impression that it would be helpful for local governments if we could obtain the understanding of each ministry and agency and somehow develop notifications that are issued to local governments.
I think I was able to answer most of Mr. Wakao's comments.
And Mr. Ochiai, thank you very much.
In that sense, I believe that it was mainly a review.
In that sense, as I explained earlier on page 18, this series of efforts started from the upper left, which is about what kind of technology exists, and I believe that the experience, history, and process of bringing it to this point are quite important. I said earlier that the committee meeting was closed, but in fact, the materials submitted to the final committee meeting were not just a summary of the efforts for the last one and a half years, but actually a summary of all the processes from the past. They are being archived as data that our juniors will be able to see later and refer to, or that teachers will be able to refer to when they think there should have been such efforts.
So, with the same thoughts as Professor Ochiai, I think that what we have been doing for the past three to four years is very important as an approach that can be used when, for example, technology comes out.
Other than that, as we consider growth strategies and other matters, we will work on various initiatives, while being aware of issues such as the attribution of responsibility, which will be beyond our reach, for example, when it comes to aligning laws and regulations with the standard. Digital Agency as a whole will work on various initiatives while being aware of such issues.
I am not sure if I have answered all the questions, but I have answered as much as I can.
Thank you very much.

Chairman Inadani: Thank you, .
I understand that you have answered to a considerable extent.
Thank you very much.
Partly because of my mistake, the time has already come, so if members have any further opinions or questions, please contact the secretariat after the meeting.
It was also mentioned that the members of Uenoyama will provide us with a variety of knowledge, so we look forward to hearing from you.
I understand that through today's discussion, we received many meaningful opinions from members that will be very helpful for our future efforts.
Regarding the review of the analog regulations at the local level, as pointed out by the members of the Council, while the efforts are steadily progressing, there are still organizations that are "undecided" and no movement has been seen. I think the key issue going forward will be how to encourage them.
What was very impressive in our discussion today was the point that the practical burden would be reduced by utilizing technology such as generative AI as we go forward. We will convey this point in an easy-to-understand manner and create an atmosphere that we should do it. We have been effectively encouraging decision making by using various media. As a way to further encourage decision making, I believe members of Uenoyama suggested using video generated by AI. I hope you will refer to these points as well.
In addition, regarding the Base Registry of the Notification, I believe there was communication among each member, and I am truly grateful for the hard work that has been carried out. I believe there was also a recognition that making it possible to connect via APIs, etc. is an important initiative for utilizing AI agents, etc. in the future.
However, at the same time, I think one of the equally important points that the members indicated at the same time was that we should start from what we can do. If we try to do something complete all of a sudden, it will stop. So, we don't mind doing it from what we can do, on a best-effort basis. I hope that you will continue to do so in the future, and I have high expectations for the services that will start to be provided on e-Gov.
I hope that the Secretariat will take note of the discussions we have had today and take further action.
Thank you very much.
I heard that Director-General Hasui would like to say a few words at the end. Thank you for waiting. Thank you very much.

Director-General Hasui: Can you hear me?
This is Hasui speaking.
Teachers, I would like to thank you again for always pointing out important points, and especially for your very kind words today.
This team, including Director Kawano, is made up of many people who are very positive in their efforts and very reliable, such as those who fly to the sites themselves. I think this atmosphere is probably being reflected, but we will have them communicate very well with each local government, and that will lead to their efforts.
In addition, as Mr. Uenoyama pointed out earlier, it is important to consider how to use AI as a matter of course when the AI is becoming ready, especially when local governments are facing a declining population and a shortage of workers. It may be rude to say that such initiatives are interesting, but I think they are important initiatives.
Among them, there is a story that we received an award for the use of satellite data, which eliminates the need for human labor to confirm planting and significantly reduces it. I think it is important to convey that these things have a very big impact by linking them well to specific use cases. In that sense, I would like to thank the professors for their very important points.
We also had systematic discussions, including from the perspective of linking these efforts horizontally.
There are discussions on what will happen, but in any case, I believe it is important to consider how to drive the AI and how to achieve it, including the necessary infrastructure, from a horizontal and consistent perspective. I believe Digital Agency must continue to firmly advance initiatives from that perspective, and I would like to continue to receive various points and opinions from you as an important drive for that.
Thank you very much for today. I look forward to your continued support.
Thank you very much for today.

Chairman Inadani: Thank you, Thank you very much.
We all look forward to the continued great output of a truly great team.
Thank you very much.
If there is any message from the Secretariat, please let us know.

Assistant Director Saito: .
Lastly, this is an administrative notice. Regarding today's agenda, as always, minutes will be prepared later and will be disclosed after being reviewed by the members.
The materials projected today will also be available on the Digital Agency website in the near future. However, please be aware that some of the materials will only be projected here today for copyright reasons.
That's all.
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Chairman Inadani: Thank you, Thank you very much.
With that, I would like to conclude today's 10th the Digital System Reform Review committee.
Thank you all for your time.

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